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5c-Oath Stax

Started by Lotus, 23-08-2007, 12:47:17 PM

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Lotus

Everybody likes 5c  ;D

I still want to play Stax even without Academy  :P. In my opinion just the Stax strategy is too weak now, this is why i added the Oath plan. But I am not sure how good it is now, the problem is that I do not have a lot of artifacts in the Deck anymore, so often the Workshop(-proxy :-X) just does nothing because i am missing artifacts. But if I cut most artifacts its just normal 5c-Oath and this is not what iwant  :-\.
Do you think that Karn is strong enough even with Oath (cause normaly you dont like to reveal him). The other question is wether is Wittness would be good? the problem is that i am not playing enough green  ::) ...the same is true for Wildfire, i am not playing eoungh red..

Decklist

Lands:

1 Snow-Covered Island

1 Windswept Heath

1 Scrubland

1 Forbidden Orchard

1 Azorius Chancery

1 Flooded Strand

1 Underground Sea

1 Lonely Sandbar

1 Wasteland

1 Tropical Island

1 Bloodstained Mire

1 Gemstone Mine

1 Darksteel Citadel

1 Savannah

1 Tolaria West

1 Snow-Covered Plains

1 City of Traitors

1 Wooded Foothills

1 Tundra

1 Mishra's Workshop

1 Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth

1 Volcanic Island

1 City of Brass

1 Polluted Delta

1 Flagstones of Trokair

1 Deserted Temple

1 Ancient Tomb

1 The Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale

1 Bayou

1 Rishadan Port

1 Plateau

1 Krosan Verge

1 Maze of Ith

1 Simic Growth Chamber

1 Secluded Steppe

Creatures:


1 Karn, Silver Golem

1 Tidespout Tyrant

1 Akroma, angel of wrath

Non-Creature Spells:

1 Crumbling Sanctuary

1 Darksteel Ingot

1 Talisman of Unity

1 Crucible of Worlds

1 Grim Monolith

1 Tidings

1 Coalition Relic

1 Braingeyser

1 Armageddon

1 Winter Orb

1 Ravages of War

1 Moat

1 Wrath of God

1 Oath of Druids

1 Enlightened Tutor

1 Life from the Loam

1 Crop Rotation

1 Decree of Silence

1 Mana Drain

1 Stroke of Genius

1 Muddle the Mixture

1 Time Spiral

1 Upheaval

1 Intuition

1 Transmute Artifact

1 Fact or Fiction

1 Memory Lapse

1 Gifts Ungiven

1 Future Sight

1 Temporal Manipulation

1 Capture of Jingzhou

1 Rolling Earthquake

1 Recoup

1 Wildfire

1 Tainted Pact

1 Demonic Tutor

1 Talisman of Dominance

1 Nether Void

1 Tithe

1 Thran Dynamo

1 Fellwar Stone

1 Talisman of Progress

1 Mind's Eye

1 Gilded Lotus

1 Chrome Mox

1 Mox Diamond

1 Mindslaver

1 Mind Stone

1 Sensei's Divining Top

1 Panoptic Mirror

1 Mishra's Helix

1 Smokestack

1 Worn Powerstone

1 Izzet Signet

1 Catastrophe

1 Tormod's Crypt

1 Thirst for knowledge

1 Regrowth

1 Tangle Wire

1 Voltaic Key

1 Sisay's Ring

1 Decree of Justice


So what doy ou think?

MarkusMagic

Hi
I'm just building an Oath-Stax deck myself. But I'm not sure which version isthe best at the moment. The banning from Talarian Acedemy hit the deck pretty hard. But I hope it's still competative.
Ok now I'd like to say something about your decklist.

1. I don't really like Tidespout Tyrant. I think Terravore, according to Hajo's GP deck would be the better choice. Or even Simic Sky Swollower. Terravor supperts the massive land desturction pretty well and is also pretty cheap with just 3 mana.

2. In my opinion cards like Future Sight, Mindslyer ane Decree of Silense are not good enough without Tollarian Academy. The deck can't produce that much mana any more and get such exploding starts afte an Armageddon. But I can't say which cards would be better in the deck. I hope I'll find out by testing some things.

3. Phyrexian Furnace and Srabbling Claws are better than Tormod's Crypt. This massive graveyard removal is not that good anymore. It was really good against TPS but this deck is not longer in the format. Against some decks Tormod's Crypt is a dead  card. So the other two artiacts can be "cycled".

4. Is Recoup relly that strong in this deck without Y. Will and Academy?

If you get some new ideas for the deck or if you got other testing resulte it would be nice if we can go on discussing the decklist.

Thanks
Markus

Lotus

Thank you for your advice  :)
...right now i have tried to play the deck without playing the stax strategy, just 5c-Oath (with some more counter and target removel). I think this works out a lot better  ;) ...but dont think i will give up that easy, i will still think about how to create a competetive oath-stax.

I like the Tyrant but maybe you are right he is not as good as a terravore, also because without academy its nearly undoable to hardcast it.

Yeah there you are absolutly right, i would change this as well.

I just thought about catching the crypt with tolaria west.

I think its still nice to get it with Inutition or Gifts  :)