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 on: 17-06-2019, 10:06:16 PM 
Started by Vazdru - Last post by Maqi
Me too.

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 on: 17-06-2019, 07:33:02 PM 
Started by Vazdru - Last post by Vazdru
https://www.cardmarket.com/en/Magic/Products/Tickets/Frankfurt-2019

Highlander Side Event
Frankfurt
Saturday August, 3rd
12.00

anyone ?!

i try to be there

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 on: 03-06-2019, 09:09:53 PM 
Started by Dr. Opossum - Last post by pyyhttu
Will also link for these forums to read this: https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/news/london-mulligan-2019-06-03

London mulligan will become official for all formats from Core Set 2020 release, July 12, 2019. WotC's Rationale on the change, testing process, learnings and the future outlined in that above article, it's about 5 min read.

Quote from: Stephanie
Standardization is not the hurdle our format has.

It's not, but it weights something as it's seen as potential improvement. Especially when WotC wrote after 6 months of testing:

"Some members of the community have suggested introducing the London mulligan on a format-by-format basis, but, as designers, we feel strongly that having one unified mulligan rule for all of Magic is the right path forward. Many Magic players try out a variety of different formats over their lifetime, and having inconsistent mulligan rules across those formats would be a substantial added complexity cost."

I think we should at least give this a benefit of doubt and start testing this same mulligan.

Quote from: Stephanie
Nevertheless, the community is discussion this topic again. In english. -> Facebook -> European Highlander group

OK, good that discussion there is ongoing. Facebook as a social network is not set for me.

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 on: 03-06-2019, 07:02:08 PM 
Started by Dr. Opossum - Last post by Dr. Opossum
Not sure how a link to a finnish forum should underline your point. A small part of the community can read this and I would prefer a objective summary of the arguments provided (pro AND con) by a finnish council member over google-translating every single post.

Also: Like I already said I am pretty sure our community is smart enough to understand format-based changes. Standardization is not the hurdle our format has.

I think you are right, that a free mulligan encourages shuffling back "semi-ok" hands, but that the London mulligan brings not the same problem convinced me barely. Nevertheless, the community is discussion this topic again. In english. -> Facebook -> European Highlander group


 5 
 on: 16-05-2019, 03:23:39 PM 
Started by sibert-msmtg - Last post by sibert-msmtg
Ende Juni ist es wieder soweit: Highlander Masters Westfalen geht in die achte Runde! Dabei kehrt die Turnierserie in die Stadt ihrer ersten Ausrichtung zurück, aber diesmal an einen anderen Ort: Gespielt wird diesmal in einem großen Seminarraum der Uni Bielefeld. (Übersetzung: Halbwegs bequeme Stühle und Atemluft.) Parallel dazu findet das monatliche OWL-Modernturnier statt, wenn ihr also Freunde habt, die nicht highlandern, aber für Modern zu haben sind - Füllt Autos und Züge und bringt sie mit!

Turnierstart: Samstag, 29.6.19, 11:00
Anmeldung: 10:00-10:50
Ort: Uni Bielefeld (Raum wird noch bekanntgegeben)
Format: Highlander
Startgeld: 10,-
Runden: 5 x best of 3 (unabhängig von Teilnehmerzahl)
Rundenzeit: 60 Minuten, 3 Extraturns
Preise: Einzelkarten, Booster, MKM Gutscheine
Bonus: Wer möchte, kann sich die Punkte des Events für die OWL-Modernliga anrechnen lassen.
Fehlen Karten fürs Deck? Kein Problem. Schreibt mich an!

Die Uni Bielefeld ist sehr gut erreichbar, es gibt reichlich kostenlose Parkhäuser direkt angrenzend, die Stadtbahn fährt alle 10 Minuten vom HBF zur Uni durch (Fahrtzeit: ~8min). Für Verpflegung ist im Hauptgebäude bis 14.30 die Westend-Cafeteria geöffnet.

FB Veranstaltung: https://www.facebook...306312459695192

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 on: 12-05-2019, 03:12:29 PM 
Started by Dr. Opossum - Last post by pyyhttu
Finnish community responded quite unanimously that if the London mulligan is embraced with the official rules, the same should be applied, or at least tried with Highlander. Reasoning was, that the standardization of mulligan rule helps to govern the rules, which would make it easier especially for new players to embrace the rules.

Another point made was that the current "free mulligan" rule encourages to shuffle back hands which would otherwise be "semi-ok" or "playable", so this "extra shuffling" portion would now be cut off. So using the mulligan, just because it's "free", shouldn't be the inherent part of the game, which it has now become. Applying mulligan to starting hands in Highlander, compared to other sanctioned formats was deemed higher.


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 on: 05-05-2019, 09:50:06 PM 
Started by Dr. Opossum - Last post by Dr. Opossum

What was the question set you used? I could perhaps utilize the same in order to get coherent results.


My question set was: "Hey! You! Give me feedback to the London Mulligan!!" and insisting on reasons (e.g. if somebody only answered "It is the best thing I ever saw!"/ "It is utterly broken!"/ "It fixes every problem Magic ever had!").



Just that I understand this correctly: if players decided to mulligan, they would first apply the free 7 mulligan, and only after that, instead of going down to six, they would take their first London mulligan instead?


Correct. It only replaced the Scry Mulligan part of our current Mulligan combination.



If so, curious to hear why not just applying the London mulligan?

That was what they communicated. It was proposed in this form and then realized. The option to replace our current Mulligan combination with the LM completely was not up for discussion so far.

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 on: 05-05-2019, 09:19:46 PM 
Started by Dr. Opossum - Last post by pyyhttu
Hats off for trying this out. The results are varied, although positively open, encouraging to take this further. I started the discussion back at Finnish community to gather the feedback there.

When there are tournaments in near future at Helsinki, I'll propose to try that London mulligan out.

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After interviewing all participants, I tried to make it somehow clear arranged.

What was the question set you used? I could perhaps utilize the same in order to get coherent results.

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Important: WE did not test the London Mulligan only, but a combination of our currently used Free Mulligan PLUS the London Mulligan after that. So it replaced the Scry Option in our currently Mulligan combination of Free Mulligan PLUS Scry Mulligan.

Just that I understand this correctly: if players decided to mulligan, they would first apply the free 7 mulligan, and only after that, instead of going down to six, they would take their first London mulligan instead?

If so, curious to hear why not just applying the London mulligan?

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 on: 05-05-2019, 03:41:31 PM 
Started by Dr. Opossum - Last post by Dr. Opossum
Hi!

The Berlin Highlander community decided to test the London Mulligan for this saturdays tournament. We had 14 players for this testing session with 14 different deck types. After interviewing all participants, I tried to make it somehow clear arranged. In the following table you'll find the participating deck as well as its fought decks of each round (in order), reached points and the key arguments the deck owner gave.

What you cannot find is the name of the deck owner and a ranking/ final standings. In this thread the discussion about the theoretically advandages and disadvantages are mainly focussed. I can see reasons for an overview of how many points the specific deck reached, but to rank the players within the same point cluster could influence the weightning of their arguments.

Important: WE did not test the London Mulligan only, but a combination of our currently used Free Mulligan PLUS the London Mulligan after that. So it replaced the Scry Option in our currently Mulligan combination of Free Mulligan PLUS Scry Mulligan.








Overall thoughts:

- Nearly all of them described the London Mulligan option as "feeling good" within the Mulligan pre-game procedure.
- The main argument of supporters were, that they reduce "non-games", what means primary, that you have too few lands or too many of them (or spell/ land ratio in general).
- Please do not let you impress that much by the decks they played against. Some of them already made some experiences with the London Mulligan in private test sessions, too.
- The main argument of rejecters were, that the London Mulligan (could) benefit specific decks.
- The argument "benefits Combo strategies" occurred both, as a concern and as a hope, depending on the interview partner.
- Some players described the sample size as too small to make their final decision about the London Mulligan
- Overall we had a wide field of notions: "absolutely in love with it", "it has advantages AND disadvantages", "it is definitely too strong" and "i do not know yet".

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 on: 08-04-2019, 05:12:54 PM 
Started by Sturmgott - Last post by r4nd0m1
I cant look at the updated version, since the download-links dont work for me.

Not sure why Survival of the Fittest is in the deck, cause its banned.

From the top of my head, here are some quick suggestions.

Against aggro, you can try to gum up the board and have _some_ form of lifegain:
Wall of Blossoms
Kitchen Finks
Spike Feeder
Obstinate Baloth
Wall of Mulch
Carven Caryatid
Sylvan Caryatid

More efficient removal also helps:
Fatal Push
Ghastly Demise
Abrupt Decay
Assassin's Trophy
Collective Brutality
Maelstrom Pulse

I wouldnt leave home without:
Duress
Inquisition of Kozilek
Thoughtseize
Hymn to Tourach
Liliana of the Veil

Some other cards I would consider to add:
Nihil Spellbomb
Hissing Quagmire
Yavimaya Elder
Reclamation Sage
Shriekmaw
Llanowar Elves, etc.
Zombie Infestation
Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
Pulse of Murasa
Scavenging Ooze
Deathrite Shaman
more Fetchlands
Tireless Tracker
Sylvan Scrying

Cards I would consider to cut:
Skyshroud Poacher
Withered Wrech
Yavimaya Granger
Viridian Shaman
Survival of the Fittest
Squee, Goblin Nabob
Krovikan Horror
Stinkweed Imp
Golgari Grave Troll
Nantuko Vigilante
Ink-Eyes, Sertvant of Oni
Thrashing Wumpus
Nezumi Graverobber

These lists could go on and on.

Bottom line: without Survival - either because its banned or you simply dont draw it often enough - your situational cards will make it difficult for you. I would try to play more all-around good cards and if your recursion picks up, thats a nice bonus and gives you reach. Also, max-out on good disruption.




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