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1  MagicPlayer Highlander / Off-Topic / Re: Warum immer noch englisch? on: Today at 01:32:56 AM
Jemand war ja so nett und hat mich bei Facebook wegen meines "Fake"-Namens gemeldet ...





... und bevor ich diesem Verein meine persönlichen Daten gebe bin ich lieber kein aktiver Teil der Highlander-Community mehr.

Kleiner Tip an die die Facebook unter einem Alterego nutzen, ihr solltet in der Gruppe keinem mit euerer Meinung auf die Füße treten.
2  MagicPlayer Highlander / Off-Topic / Re: Warum immer noch englisch? on: Yesterday at 02:01:46 PM
I do not see any sense in excluding player groups that "read only"
Aren't those foreign communities with own forums in their native language exculding other communities?


Making information available to communities outside of the own country not only shows respect for other groups of players
I don't see that kind of respect from foreign communities if they prefer posting in their native language and only use this forum to "lurk".


We have 3 council members who do not speak German and communicate through this forum or obtain information.
pyyhttu: Last post 04-10-2017
Nastaboi: Last post 16-11-2016
Dalibor: Last post 21-09-2017
It's more like they obtain and take it away into their own forums excluding other foreign communities to participate for whatever reasons.


The question that is much more pressing for me is: "Why is not written in English in other active Highlander forums?"
Good question ... or why foreign communities don't use this forum?


Also: If you think that your question should only reach a certain target group / is aimed at a specific target group, you are obviously free to write it in your native language. Whether that makes sense and you may not still see advantages in a medium that everyone understands is another matter.
I don't have a problem at all writing in english if there would be participation from foreign players but as I pointed out this forum is activly used only from german-speaking users so I was suggesting "Why not keep it german?".
3  MagicPlayer Highlander / Off-Topic / Re: Warum immer noch englisch? on: Yesterday at 11:16:06 AM
Maybe the majority of registered forumusers seem to be non-german but I'm talking more about the active users. Since the finish community seem to have their own forum where they only post only in finish and the same counts for the czech/slovakian community, I don't see a good reason here why I/we should continue posting in english only for those who "lurk" and don't participate. We don't have a forum yet for those native german speaking players who are not that good in english to read or post in this forum but it seem to be okay for the foreign communities to open up their own forums so they can hold it in their native language.
As far as I know it was kinda a favor that we started to post in english so foreign players can participate in discussions but since the most of them fled there is no reason anymore to hold the most threads in english here.
For a comprehensive communication of all communities there is still the facebook group.
As I said the important threads like Ban-/Watchlist changes and the Online Highlander League should stay in english but I still don't see a reason why the rest of the forum here should stay in english.
4  MagicPlayer Highlander / Off-Topic / Warum immer noch englisch? on: 21-07-2018, 03:25:36 AM
Da die ausländischen Communities dieses Forum ja scheinbar eh nicht nutzen, wieso schreiben wir dann immer noch zum Großteil auf englisch? Eine Änderung der Hauptkommunikationssprache auf deutsch wird sich in diesem Forum wohl kaum negativ auf die Aktivitäten auswirken (vielleicht sogar eher positiv), da soweit ich weiß jeder derzeitig aktive Nutzer deutsch kann. Auf gezielte Fragen kann man bei Bedarf ja immer noch auf englisch antworten bzw. den Allwissenden fragen.
Bis auf ein paar Ausnahmen zum Beispiel Ban-/Watchlist Änderungen und Online Highlander League ist meiner Meinung nach die englische Sprache in diesem Forum mittlerweile völlig unnötig.

Falls es dennoch gute Gründe für die englische Sprache gibt, könnt ihr mir diese gerne Mitteilen, vielleicht ändert sich meine Meinung.


Hab den ganzen Text aus Faulheit nochmal durch den Translator gejagt falls es wider erwartend Nutzer geben sollte die kein deutsch können:
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Since the foreign communities seemingly do not use this forum anyway, why do we still mostly write in English? A change in the main communication language in German in this forum will probably have little negative impact on the activities (maybe even more positive), as far as I know every currently active users German. If you have any questions, you can still answer in English or ask the omniscient.
Except for a few exceptions, for example Ban-/Watchlist changes and Online Highlander League is in my opinion the English language in this forum meanwhile completely unnecessary.

If there are good reasons for the English language, you are welcome to tell them, maybe my opinion will change.
5  MagicPlayer Highlander / Off-Topic / Re: Cockatrice on: 16-07-2018, 09:20:11 AM
I'm more active since a few weeks again, so I will play again on cockatrice, too.
I'm using the Woogerworks server, let me know if highlander players still using this one or switched to another one.
6  MagicPlayer Highlander / Reports / Re: Metagame Masters 12, Berlin (39 players) on: 15-07-2018, 02:21:10 PM
Thanks for sharing the decklists and stats so fast Smiley *thumbs up*
7  MagicPlayer Highlander / Banned List & Rules / Re: Changing the effect of our watchlist, to make it more meaningful? on: 15-07-2018, 02:14:32 PM
No seriously, that sounds exactly like canadian highlander.
Embarrassed

Another idea I guess this is a good spot to throw out there: I'd like to see a slightly extended watchlist and each card with a rating on how likely it will get banned or unbanned, respectively. Perhaps votecounts.
Sounds reasonable

For me personally, none of the cards on the current watchlist make much sense to ban. Entomb is a very special card, but I'm not aware of it dominating anything. Oath of Druids also doesnt dominate anything ...
The problem with these kind of cards is, they can escalate pretty fast and need to observed pretty strict.

easy Jitte, Skullclamp unban
'Skullclamp' recently was removed again from the UNBAN-Watchlist, so it would take at least 15 month for an UNBAN Wink

Since I'm a Blood player and I would profit alot from an UNBAN of those two cards, I would like to say it would make certain matchups more random ... who has the card or who don't has an answer wins or loses. I think it's not necessarily the powerlevel what holds those cards on the BANLIST it's more the random factor these cards will bring to the format. Furthermore cards who are on the BANLIST for a long time having some kind of stigma to the coucil it seems (f.e. 'Stoneforge Mystic') and they have difficulties to handle this.

For me 'Stripmine' is since quite a while the biggest contender on the BANLIST with an "easy UNBAN"-Factor.
8  MagicPlayer Highlander / Banned List & Rules / Changing the effect of our watchlist, to make it more meaningful? on: 14-07-2018, 03:03:34 PM
I had a discussion about the Watch-/Banlist system of our format with a friend and we came to an interesting idea which I wanna share herewith.

Since years now I have the feeling that our watchlist is becoming more and more meaningless with no effect at all. The question in our discussion was "How can we make the Watchlist more meaningful/useful?" and we came to this idea:
What if decks are only allowed to contain a certain amount of "watchlisted for BAN" cards? My first suggestion was 2-3.
Players have to decide now which watchlisted cards they want to play, which can change the meta slightly. The restriction should make it easier to see which watchlisted cards are more frequent played therefore deserve their place on the watchlist and what watchlisted cards are replaceable and could be removed from the watchlist.

Share your opinion on this idea, especially council members.
9  MagicPlayer Highlander / Deck Lists / The four relatives of 4c Blood (Abzan / Jund / Mardu / Naya) [UPDATE July 2018] on: 14-07-2018, 12:14:05 PM


Abzan (Midrange)

[4 Artifacts]
1cc
Aether Vial
2cc
Smuggler's Copter
3cc
Sword of Feast and Famine
5cc
Batterskull

[31 Creature]
1cc
Avacyn's Pilgrim
Birds of Paradise
Deathrite Shaman
Elves of Deep Shadow
Fyndhorn Elves
Llanowar Elves
Noble Hierarch
2cc
Dark Confidant
Qasali Pridemage
Scavenging Ooze
Stoneforge Mystic
Tarmogoyf
Tidehollow Sculler
Voice of Resurgence
3cc
Anafenza, the Foremost
Aven Mindcensor
Courser of Kruphix
Deathgorge Scavenger
Doran, the Siege Tower
Eternal Witness
Kitchen Finks
Knight of the Reliquary
Prowling Serpopard
Runic Armasaur (M19)
Shield Mare (M19)
Steel Leaf Champion
4cc
Kalitas, Traitor of Ghet
Palace Jailer
Shalai, Voice of Plenty
Siege Rhino
6cc
Tasigur, the Golden Fang

[2 Enchantment]
2cc
Sylvan Library
3cc
Phyrexian Arena

[11 Instant]
1cc
Fatal Push
Path to Exile
Swords to Plowshares
2cc
Abrupt Decay
Eladamri's Call
Shadow of Doubt
Tainted Pact
Zealous Persecution
3cc
Dismember
Hero's Downfall
Putrefy

[34 Land]
Arid Mesa
Bayou
Bloodstained Mire
Blooming Marsh
Concealed Courtyard
Flooded Strand
Forest
Gaea's Cradle
Godless Shrine
Horizon Canopy
Isolated Chapel
Karakas
Marsh Flats
Misty Rainforest
Murmuring Bosk
Nantuko Monastery
Overgrown Tomb
Plains
Polluted Delta
Razorverge Thicket
Savannah
Scrubland
Shambling Vent
Stirring Wildwood
Sunpetal Grove
Swamp
Temple Garden
Twilight Mire
Verdant Catacombs
Wasteland
Windswept Heath
Wooded Bastion
Wooded Foothills
Woodland Cemetery

[7 Planeswalker]
3cc
Liliana of the Veil
Liliana, the Last Hope
Nissa, Voice of Zendikar
4cc
Elspeth, Knight-Errant
Gideon, Ally of Zendikar
Kaya, Ghost Assassin
Sorin, Lord of Innistrad

[11 Sorcery]
1cc
Duress
Green Sun's Zenith
Inquisition of Kozilek
Thoughtseize
2cc
Collective Brutality
Demonic Tutor
Hymn to Tourach
3cc
Council's Judgment
Lingering Souls
Maelstrom Pulse
Vindicate



Jund (Midrange)

[2 Artifact]
1cc
Aether Vial
2cc
Smuggler's Copter

[31 Creature]
1cc
Birds of Paradise
Deathrite Shaman
Elves of Deep Shadow
Fyndhorn Elves
Llanowar Elves
Noble Hierarch
2cc
Dark Confidant
Grim Flayer
Kitesail Freebooter
Scavenging Ooze
Tarmogoyf
3cc
Courser of Kruphix
Deathgorge Scavenger
Eternal Witness
Glissa, the Traitor
Kitchen Finks
Olivia, Mobilized for War
Rampaging Ferocidon
Reclamation Sage
Runic Armasaur (M19)
Sin Prodder
Sprouting Thrinax
Steel Leaf Champion
Tireless Tracker
Vampire Nighthawk
4cc
Bloodbraid Elf
Falkenrath Aristocrat
Josu Vess, Lich Knight
Kalitas, Traitor of Ghet
Obstinate Baloth
6cc
Tasigur, the Golden Fang

[3 Enchantment]
2cc
Bitterblossom
Sylvan Library
3cc
Recurring Nightmare

[12 Instant]
1cc
Fatal Push
Lightning Bolt
2cc
Abrupt Decay
Cast Down
Go for the Throat
Golgari Charm
Shadow of Doubt
Tainted Pact
Terminate
3cc
Dismember
Kolaghan's Command
Putrefy

[34 Land]
Arid Mesa
Badlands
Bayou
Blood Crypt
Bloodstained Mire
Blooming Marsh
Copperline Gorge
Dragonskull Summit
Forest
Hissing Quagmire
Llanowar Wastes
Marsh Flats
Misty Rainforest
Mountain
Murmuring Bosk
Overgrown Tomb
Polluted Delta
Raging Ravine
Reflecting Pool
Rootbound Crag
Scalding Tarn
Skarrg, the Rage Pits
Snow-Covered Forest
Snow-Covered Swamp
Stomping Ground
Swamp
Taiga
Tectonic Edge
Twilight Mire
Verdant Catacombs
Wasteland
Windswept Heath
Wooded Foothills
Woodland Cemetery

[6 Planeswalker]
3cc
Nissa, Voice of Zendikar
Liliana of the Veil
Liliana, the Last Hope
4cc
Arlinn Kord / Arlinn, Embraced by the Moon
Chandra, Torch of Defiance
Xenagos, the Reveler


[12 Sorcery]
1cc
Duress
Green Sun's Zenith
Inquisition of Kozilek
Thoughtseize
Unearth
2cc
Demonic Tutor
Dreadbore
Driven // Despair
Hull Breach
Hymn to Tourach
3cc
Maelstrom Pulse
Painful Truths



Mardu Super-Friends (Control)

[4 Artifact]
0cc
Chrome Mox
Mox Diamond
3cc
Sword of Feast and Famine
5cc
Batterskull

[19 Creature]
1cc
Deathrite Shaman
2cc
Gifted Aetherborn
Kitesail Freebooter
Stoneforge Mystic
Tidehollow Sculler
Young Pyromancer
3cc
Kitchen Finks
Monastery Mentor
Shield Mare (M19)
4cc
Falkenrath Aristocrat
Josu Vess, Lich Knight
Kalitas, Traitor of Ghet
Leonin Warleader (M19)
Olivia Voldaren
Palace Jailer
Queen Marchesa
Restoration Angel
5cc
Thundermaw Hellkite
Stormbreath Dragon


[2 Enchantment]
3cc
Phyrexian Arena
4cc
Parallax Wave

[15 Instant]
1cc
Fatal Push
Lightning Bolt
Path to Exile
Swords to Plowshares
2cc
Cast Down
Go for the Throat
Lightning Helix
Shadow of Doubt
Tainted Pact
Terminate
3cc
Anguished Unmaking
Dismember
Hero's Downfall
Kolaghan's Command
Mortify

[35 Land]
Arid Mesa
Badlands
Blackcleave Cliffs
Blood Crypt
Bloodstained Mire
Clifftop Retreat
Concealed Courtyard
Dragonskull Summit
Fetid Heath
Flooded Strand
Godless Shrine
Graven Cairns
Inspiring Vantage
Isolated Chapel
Karakas
Marsh Flats
Maze of Ith
Mountain
Plains
Plateau
Polluted Delta
Rugged Prairie
Sacred Foundry
Scalding Tarn
Scrubland
Shambling Vent
Snow-Covered Swamp
Snow-Covered Plains
Snow-Covered Mountain
Swamp
Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
Verdant Catacombs
Wasteland
Windswept Heath
Wooded Foothills

[12 Planeswalker]
3cc
Liliana of the Veil
4cc
Ajani Vengeant
Chandra, Torch of Defiance
Elspeth, Knight-Errant
Gideon, Ally of Zendikar
Kaya, Ghost Assassin
Nahiri, the Harbinger
Sorin, Lord of Innistrad
5cc
Sarkhan, the Dragonspeaker
Gideon Jura
Ob Nixilis Reignited
6cc
Elspeth, Sun's Champion

[13 Sorcery]
1cc
Chain Lightning
Duress
Inquisition of Kozilek
Thoughtseize
2cc
Demonic Tutor
Dreadbore
Gerrard's Verdict
Hymn to Tourach
3cc
Council's Judgment
Lingering Souls
Painful Truths
Toxic Deluge
Vindicate



Naya Zoo (Aggro)

[3 Artifact]
1cc
Aether Vial
2cc
Throne of the God-Pharaoh
3cc
Grafted Wargear

[45 Creature]
1cc
Avacyn's Pilgrim
Birds of Paradise
Deathrite Shaman
Goblin Guide
Grim Lavamancer
Llanowar Elves
Mother of Runes
Narnam Renegade
Noble Hierarch
Soldier of the Pantheon
Wild Nacatl
2cc
Duskwatch Recruiter / Krallenhorde Howler
Fleecemane Lion
Qasali Pridemage
Scavenging Ooze
Selfless Spirit
Serra Avenger
Sky Terror
Tarmogoyf
Veteran Motorist
Voice of Resurgence
Watchwolf
3cc
Ahn-Crop Crasher
Aven Mindcensor
Brimaz, King of Oreskos
Courser of Kruphix
Deathgorge Scavenger
Kinjalli's Sunwing
Kitchen Finks
Knight of the Reliquary
Loxodon Smiter
Mirran Crusader
Mirri, Weatherlight Duelist
Prowling Serpopard
Recruiter of the Guard
Renegade Wheelsmith
Steel Leaf Champion
Territorial Hammerskull
Thalia, Guardian of Thraben
Thalia, Heretic Cathar
Tireless Tracker
Woolly Thoctar
4cc
Bloodbraid Elf
Vengevine
Wilt-Leaf Liege

[2 Enchantment]
1cc
Rancor
2cc
Sylvan Library

[11 Instant]
1cc
Blossoming Defense
Lightning Bolt
2cc
Boros Charm
Dromoka's Command
Eladamri's Call
Lightning Helix
Path to Exile
Swords to Plowshares
3cc
Dismember
Naya Charm
4cc
Collected Company

[32 Land]
Arid Mesa
Bloodstained Mire
Brushland
Canopy Vista
Cinder Glade
Copperline Gorge
Flooded Strand
Forest (2)
Horizon Canopy
Inspiring Vantage
Karakas
Karplusan Forest
Kessig Wolf Run
Marsh Flats
Misty Rainforest
Plains
Plateau
Raging Ravine
Razorverge Thicket
Sacred Foundry
Savannah
Scalding Tarn
Skarrg, the Rage Pits
Stirring Wildwood
Stomping Ground
Taiga
Temple Garden
Verdant Catacombs
Wasteland
Windswept Heath
Wooded Foothills

[4 Planeswalker]
3cc
Domri Rade
Nissa, Voice of Zendikar
4cc
Ajani, Adversary of Tyrants
Elspeth, Knight-Errant

[3 Sorcery]
1cc
Chain Lightning
Green Sun's Zenith
3cc
Council's Judgment


10  MagicPlayer Highlander / Deck Lists / Re: 4c Blood decklist(s)/spreadsheet on: 11-07-2018, 04:49:47 PM
Sorry, I forgot to uncheck the 'private' box for the tappedout.net link, it should work now for everyone.
11  MagicPlayer Highlander / General Discussion / Re: The future of highlander on: 11-07-2018, 12:05:31 PM
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At least the first council member admit...

*the 3rd
Thanks for sharing the wall of text from those two.

I would recommend to get yourself a facebook account (does not have to be your real name) and head over to https://www.facebook.com/groups/HighlanderEurope/?ref=bookmarks to get all informations.[url]

I left facebook for a good personal reason and I don't think it should be necessary to make an account anywhere to gather ALL public informations. This forum is free to read wether you have an account or not.


The post of Dr. Opossum was kinda interesting to read.

Quote
"We do not currently play Highlander in my area."
I personally don't have a community for years, mostly only playing online on cockatrice and from time to time some kitchetable-highlander magic. I still manage to participate as much as possible in discussions.

Quote
"I write exams."
Voting for Watch-/Banlist don't take too much time.

Quote
"I actively participated 700 years ago."
This sounds like someone is not interested in participating anymore because of his engagement in the past.

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Activity is measured by current engagement and collaboration and not by successes of x years ago
Exactly


On Payrons post I can only reapeat what I wrote before, I can understand if council members have no time to participate in every discussion because of "real life" stuff.
If you think nothing problematic has happened since the last voting, you can just stick with your last voting. This don't take too much time but it should be done within the deadline.

12  MagicPlayer Highlander / General Discussion / Re: The future of highlander on: 11-07-2018, 02:17:30 AM
One possible solution could be a "modern" HL format that hopefully can attract players
The main reason why I chose to play highlander is because I can play so many fun cards from the history of magic which are too "bad" for vintage, legacy or modern. A drastic restriction of the cardpool would instantly kill the format for me.

Other theoretical options could be proxies
I was thinking about something like that, too. At the end I don't think this can be a real solution. Because it would be pretty unsatisfying for players who invested their money in real cards and losing against proxies in tournaments.

Obviously the communication this summer was lacking and I would like to ask for an apology on that on behalf for myself and my fellow council members. I understand this was a real bad timing of us to be so silent. In fact I have been lacking time personally to invest into my duties as a council member for some time now and my cards have been collecting dust as well.
At least the first council member admit that the communication with the community was not that good in the past few months. For sure I understand that council members having a job, friends and family who are demanding their time, too. What I don't understand is we have eight council members and for me it looks like some of them don't even do anything.

Just to show the forum activities of our coucil members ...

Vazdru: Last post 26-06-2018
Maqi: Last post 14-04-2018
Payron: Last post 06-07-2018
Dr. Opossum: Last post 08-07-2018
ChristophO: Last post 10-07-2018
pyyhttu: Last post 04-10-2017
Nastaboi: Last post 16-11-2016
Dalibor: Last post 21-09-2017

... by the way for sure this forum is kinda dead when not even some of the council members use it.

The finish part of our highlander community seem to have their own forum/messenger groups, the czech/slovakia part most likely have their own, too and it feels like every user of this forum is from germany/austria (and we still only post in english) ... for sure communication at all is lacking if we split up like this. Just let's hope for the sake of all who love this format we can make this better again, otherwise the future looks pretty grim.
13  MagicPlayer Highlander / General Discussion / Re: The future of highlander on: 10-07-2018, 02:54:14 AM
Hey guys,
my feeling is that our beloved highlander format is slowly dying.

This has necessarily nothing to do with our highlander format, but more with the rising prices for (reserve-listed) eternal relevant cards. The same reason why Vintage died years ago and Legacy is struggling and will die soon, too.
Since our highlander format became more and more competitive over the years many casual players switched to commander, because it gives them more chances to play cheaper decks without getting stomped every time they play. The only competitive "budget" deck our format has at the moment is RDW.

What this format possibly needs is something what makes the format more attractive for beginners or players with a budget (for example budget-prices at tournaments).

the major tournament organized by JK
In my opinion JK is a bad TO anyways, for example kinda high entry fee and compared to that, a bad prize payout.
MGM or The "The-One" Series were showing us it can work the other way around.

I think the biggest difference is that over here people don't seem to put in effort to keep the format going, while over in Canada they do.

What we see over here: an inactive council with super questionable watchlistings that don't even get their own forum topic.
In my eyes this is another reason after the price issue for cards, why this format is going down at the moment.

Another example the Online-Highlander Tournament/League was once free to sign up, now it has an entry fee like a normal tournament. For sure the problem was as the tournament was free to sign up, many players were just joining and didn't showed up to their matches.

My suggestion on this topic would be:
- A free to sign-up Tournament with 8 or 16 slots running over 1 or 2 month
- Players who don't show up to their match for the first time recieve a loss, second time they getting disqualified and will not be able to join the next tournament.
- Playdays would be Saturday and Sunday 5-11pm (players can make an arrengement to play on any day/time before Sunday 22pm)
- The winner of this tournament will get free entry into the Online-Highlander League.

For sure this will take some time for coordination and organisation but for fuck sake this is what the council is for and should do.

Would like to see some responses on this topic or any other suggestions from council members respective the future of this format.
14  MagicPlayer Highlander / Deck Lists / 4c Blood decklist(s)/spreadsheet on: 09-07-2018, 12:38:45 PM
Because of M19 I updated the spreadsheet for my deck and I thought this could be interesting or maybe helpful for some other 4c Blood players, too ... so I transfered it from excel to google.docs to share:

4c Blood Google.docs decklist(s)/spreadsheet link

#1 Chart: Decklists of both versions I'm playing at the moment (tappedout.net link 4c Blood decklist)
#2 Chart: Stats of color distribution and manacost
#3 Chart: Most of the card choices I made over the years since I'm playing this deck
#4 Chart: Decklist of Royal Blood (5c Midrange, I only play this deck online on cockatrice)

Cheers and have fun!
15  MagicPlayer Highlander / New Editions / M19 additions to your highlander?! on: 08-07-2018, 10:30:14 PM
Ajani, Adversary of Tyrants



Shield Mare

Kitchen Finks 2.0?


Runic Armasaur

Anti-Fetchland "Wall"


Tezzeret, Artifice Master



Alpine Moon

How to handle Valakut, Tolarian Academy, Maze of Ith, ...


Thud

1cc "Fling"
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