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2446  MagicPlayer Highlander / General Discussion / Re: Is it worth buying a workshop? on: 22-08-2007, 04:06:41 PM
Definitely no Wink I've bought a Beta Berserk for R/G and Firesgeddon and never played it yet Cheesy Why? There are too many nice Decks you can play in highlander. So i decided to play Oath.dec rather than R/G and Firesgeddon on the last Highlander-GP.

BUT ! If you can get a workshop cheaply - take it !!!!  Tongue It is still one of the strongest cards in one of the strongest decks.

BUT ! If you ask me i would ban workshop and unban trinisphere. So maybe one time.... Wink
2447  MagicPlayer Highlander / General Discussion / Re: congrats on: 22-08-2007, 03:59:23 PM
To launch this forum is definitely a good idea. Thx, great job Frank Grin I'm looking forward to discussing our favorite magic format.
2448  MagicPlayer Highlander / Banned List & Rules / Re: Bannings in HL on: 22-08-2007, 03:50:18 PM
First of all I want to note that the mentioned highlander banned list has been discussed a good many times. There are a lot of different views how to get the list better and better. Therefore it wasn’t even possible for the two biggest highlander communities in Germany to get a common banned list yet.

In my opinion especially Dust Bowl, Mind over Matter (after banning Academy), Trinisphere (vs. Workshop) and Jitte have to be unbanned soon. But how do you convince people (with bad experience) to unban cards they never use? Let’s say it’s hard  Wink

Highlander is an absolutely different world to legacy so it’s almost impossible to compare the legacy and highlander banned list although they match in some points. For example Frank is right to say Oath of Druids isn’t that broken in highlander like asi tried to tell us. I should know because I played my Oath.dec in the last Highlander GP and some tourneys before and have seen lots of Oath-Players around who've lost vs a random token deck, R/G and so on. Imo the most broken card in highlander is Gifts Ungiven and Life from the Loam which both arent’t on the legacy banned list. On the other way round Gush, Recruiter, Mind’s Desire, Replenish and so on are -like you said- obviously no problem for the highlander format.

Bargain, Necro, Oath or Bazaar are long time unbanned and have never been dominating highlander. You won’t find them in many Top 8 lists of the three Highlander-GPs (all of them with around 100 players each) - maybe in 2 or 3. Why? Cause the banned list allows to generate lots of competitive decks. For example Red Deck Wins is quite strong in highlander because it is imo the most consistent deck in the meta, also R/G works quite well – both decks have no problem with one-ofs like Oath, Bargain, Necro and so on. 

So let’s go to a card discussion than to a banned list discussion in general. HIGHANDER definitely needs a specific banned list! Which cards in special would you like to ban/unban zimagic?

I belong to the second largest highlander community in Germany (after We play highlander magic since the beginning of MTG and we use actually following banned list. The differences to are marked. I think both banned lists are far from being perfect, but it shows clearly the different views on the format people have.

Ancestral Recall
Black Lotus
Crucible of Worlds
Demonic Tutor

Gifts Ungiven
Hermit Druid

Imperial Seal
Land Tax

Library of Alexandria
Life from the Loam
Mana Crypt
Mana Vault
Memory Jar
Mind Twist
Mox Emerald
Mox Jet
Mox Pearl
Mox Ruby
Mox Sapphire
Sol Ring
Survival of the Fittest
Time Walk
Vampiric Tutor
Wheel of Fortune

Missing in our list:
Crop Rotation
Dust Bowl
Mind over Matter
Mystical Tutor
Umezawa’s Jitte
Strip Mine
Tolarian Academy
Worldgorger Dragon
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